Deal 4 ♠  
 
 
♣  
 
 WEST  NORTH  EAST  SOUTH
11♠pass BID 
 

The bidding has been as shown. It is your bid. What do you say?
  ♠ 6
K J 9 4 3
K 9 4
♣ 8 7 6 5
 

 
Deal 4 ♠ K Q J 9 6
8
Q 6 2
♣ Q 9 4 3
 
 WEST  NORTH  EAST  SOUTH
11♠passpass
pass

The bidding has been as shown. It is your bid. What do you say?

You really don't like partner's ♠s, and you do have 8 points.
But 8 points is not enough to be considering game, and you would have to bid your s at the 2-level.
All things considered it is better to pass while you still aren't doubled.

 Deal 5 
  ♠ 6
K J 9 4 3
K 9 4
♣ 8 7 6 5